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File: neoreactionary cat.jpg (68 KB, 600x786) 68 KB Anonymous 09/02/14(Tue)21:13:09 No.35122645▶ >>35123830 >>35125382 >>35125386 >>35128829 >>35131145 >>35131248 >>35131395 >>35131601 >>35131682 >>35131695 >>35131937 >>35133126 >>35133229 >>35134291 >>35134331 Neoreactionary thread. Thread music: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKCRHhmHvjg [Remove] Today's topic, Rotherham. Perhaps the greatest example of the decay of the modern progressive state for years. >> Anonymous 09/02/14(Tue)21:21:20 No.35123039▶ File: gates of dawn.jpg (150 KB, 557x1014) 150 KB Bumping with art. >> Anonymous WP 09/02/14(Tue)21:26:52 No.35123306▶ File: sQJJwnH.jpg (466 KB, 1927x1479) 466 KB NRx https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvFD7urcHZE [Remove] >> Anonymous WP 09/02/14(Tue)21:30:23 No.35123496▶ >>35123972 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4z50p2v5Of0 [Embed] oh I thought this was an NRx music thread >> Anonymous NZ 09/02/14(Tue)21:36:25 No.35123830▶ >>35129456 >>35129659 >>35122645 (OP) I feel the need to translate this for /pol/ Based song is based Your great-great-grandfather, he cleared the land Your great-grandfather, he plowed the land And your grandfather made the land profitable And your father sold it to become a state employee As for you, my boy, you don't know what you're gonna do In your small one bedroom way too expensive, cold in the winter Some wants to become an owner come over you And you dream at night to own a small plot of land Your great-great-grandmother, she had fourteen children Your great-grandmother had almost as many And your grandmother had three it was enough And your mother didn't want any ; you were an accident As for you, my girl, you change partner all the time When you do something stupid, you get out of it with an abortion But there are mornings, you wake up crying When you dream at night of a big table surrounded by kids Your great-great-grandfather, lived in misery Your great-grandfather, collected pennies And your grandfather - miracle! - became a millionaire And your father inherited it and put it all in his RRSPs As for you, young one, you owe your ass to the government No way to get a loan in a banking institution To calm your urges to hold-up the cashier You read books about voluntary simplicity Your great-great-grandparents, the knew how to celebrate Your great-grandparents were swingning hard at parties And your grandparents saw the ye-ye period Your parents were discos, that's where they met As for you my friend, what do you do with your evening ? Just turn off your TV ; you shoudn't stay inside Luckily in life some things refuse to change Put on your nicest clothes because tonight we're going dancing... >> Anonymous 09/02/14(Tue)21:38:38 No.35123972▶ File: 1385796047358.jpg (463 KB, 1600x1149) 463 KB >>35123496 Feel free with dumping art too, most NRx threads are either filled with the usual debates between LIBERALtarians and reactionaries and there is little actual constructive discussion, sometimes a few interesting scanned book links are shared. >> Anonymous 09/02/14(Tue)21:39:59 No.35124053▶ >>35124419 Fascists listen to neo-folk? >> Anonymous 09/02/14(Tue)21:40:23 No.35124077▶ I like Evola's idea of race. >> Anonymous 09/02/14(Tue)21:42:54 No.35124223▶ >>35124463 >>35124861 >>35131307 >>35132205 >>35133762 File: 1369856699473.png (262 KB, 565x763) 262 KB Hypothetically speaking, if time travel were invented, where would you live and what time period? Also, thread music: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kv3fCVLPsds [Remove] >> Anonymous NZ 09/02/14(Tue)21:43:38 No.35124265▶ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmCVyfhl1do [Embed] Punk music but still a good message\\ (lyrics are in the comments) >> Anonymous 09/02/14(Tue)21:46:08 No.35124419▶ >>35124614 >>35124053 >NRx >fascist Pick one. >> Anonymous 09/02/14(Tue)21:46:58 No.35124463▶ >>35124223 Germany, the 18th century. >> Anonymous 09/02/14(Tue)21:47:17 No.35124476▶ >>35124662 >>35125958 >>35131552 >>35133078 File: 1409289633475.jpg (99 KB, 683x909) 99 KB Can someone explain the Neoreactionary movement? I've seen the posts but I havent looked into it. >> Anonymous 09/02/14(Tue)21:50:13 No.35124614▶ >>35124815 >>35124419 'splain? Does being part of the movement mean that you have to listen to the Legendary Pink Dots a lot? >> Anonymous 09/02/14(Tue)21:51:04 No.35124662▶ >>35125562 >>35133313 File: Louise_Rayner_Salisbury_T(...).jpg (1.18 MB, 2552x1738) 1.18 MB >>35124476 There is not really a movement, just a bunch of bloggers really. But frankly, simply the opposition to the Enlightenment values. Neoreactionaries believe in Hierarchy, organic social institutions and that might makes right. You should start reading Moldbugs Gentle introduction. >> Anonymous 09/02/14(Tue)21:54:15 No.35124815▶ >>35132903 File: 1407054748654.png (453 KB, 1200x800) 453 KB >>35124614 Neoreactionaries believes that there is very little differnce between the three modernist ideologies of fascism, Wilsonian democracy and soviet communism. Their chief error is that they are "demotic", ie rule in the name of the good of the people. NRx pleads that a monarchy/aristocracy ruling in their own interests will assure a much more responsible government. Same as why the capitalist restaurant that works for the benefit of the owner has better food than the communist one which works for the benefit of the proletariat. >> Anonymous 09/02/14(Tue)21:55:16 No.35124861▶ >>35125231 >>35125958 >>35124223 >running away to a different time period I GOT A DATE WITH FATE AND ITS HERE AND NOW >> Anonymous NZ 09/02/14(Tue)22:02:05 No.35125231▶ >>35125958 >>35124861 This The world is ours. Let's mold it into the future we want. >> Anonymous 09/02/14(Tue)22:04:55 No.35125382▶ >>35125958 >>35130295 >>35131534 >>35134450 File: for god.png (483 KB, 618x327) 483 KB >>35122645 (OP) My biggest issue with Monarchists: WHO will be king? Who will be the new aristocracy? The current power elite are corrupt to the bone, the old clergy and royals have proven tainted in purity of spirit. No man or woman alive is worthy in my eyes to govern me. So whats the plan neorecs? >> Anonymous 09/02/14(Tue)22:05:01 No.35125386▶ >>35122645 (OP) After equality comes iquality. THAT'S when it starts.... >> Anonymous 09/02/14(Tue)22:08:19 No.35125562▶ >>35125782 File: 1406608476496.jpg (74 KB, 600x786) 74 KB >>35124662 Thanks. But how would a new aristocratic government be different then the current ones used around the world. >> Anonymous 09/02/14(Tue)22:09:10 No.35125611▶ >>35125701 >>35125749 YOU THINK I WANT A FUCKING PRISSY SON-OF-A-BITCH PRESUMING TO LEAD ME FOR LIFE? FUCK THE KING, REFORM THE COUNTRY AND LEARN FROM HISTORY HOLY SHIT BECOME INDEPENDENT LIKE AMERICA >> Anonymous 09/02/14(Tue)22:10:55 No.35125701▶ >>35125898 >>35125611 Instead of a King, you get Anita and Trayvon. Have fun, you have less power than you would under a king. >> PunPun !aVDxYxwSA. 09/02/14(Tue)22:12:00 No.35125749▶ >>35125898 >>35125611 >BECOME INDEPENDENT LIKE AMERICA kek http://www.moreright.net/books/Mencius%20Moldbug/Open%20Letter.pdf >> Anonymous 09/02/14(Tue)22:12:30 No.35125782▶ >>35126160 >>35131534 >>35125562 It is all about formalizing existing relationships. A restaurant that is being extorted by the mob is practically owned by them. The difference is that they are not interested in running it, but rather extorting as money as possible. If they formally owned the restaurant, then they have different incitements. Since moral incentives don't work, and we know from history that our best way to get someone responsible is by giving them the financial incentive. >> Anonymous 09/02/14(Tue)22:15:15 No.35125898▶ >>35125749 FUCK PROGRESSIVES IM NOT READING THIS HORSESHIT. TEACHER I AM NOT THE TARGET AUDIENCE >>35125701 READ A BOOK FAGMASTER AND TAKE THE RIGHT STEPS. PROTIP: NEOREACTIONARIES ARE THE NEXT STEP AFTER CHAOTIC MOB RULE AND SOCIETAL COLLAPSE DUE TO DEGENERACY. OUR COUNTRY WAS BUILT AND WRITTEN SO FAGGOTS LIKE YOU WOULD BE DISSUADED FROM FALLING INTO THE LAP OF HISTORY AND PLAYING SIMON SAYS FOR MILLENIUM HOLY FUCK YOU'RE STUPID >> Anonymous 09/02/14(Tue)22:16:16 No.35125958▶ >>35126036 >>35127086 >>35125231 >>35124861 What's that young Dasein? Wonderment? Awe? >>35125382 A new aristocracy will be forged with fire and blood, the king most of all. These men will live in the moment, not for the moment. >>35124476 Basically a comprehesive memeplex that dialectically feasts upon the carcass of progressivism. >> Anonymous 09/02/14(Tue)22:17:55 No.35126036▶ >>35125958 Don't forget crabs. >> Anonymous 09/02/14(Tue)22:20:22 No.35126160▶ >>35126248 File: 1407257898776.gif (1.69 MB, 360x240) 1.69 MB >>35125782 So just to make sure I understand, Instead of businesses bribing the government officials they become the government officials directly? >> Anonymous 09/02/14(Tue)22:22:11 No.35126248▶ >>35126624 >>35126160 Think of it as a Monarch as a landlord. The wealthier his subjects are, the wealthier can he make himself. >> Anonymous 09/02/14(Tue)22:24:53 No.35126415▶ >>35126545 This is our anthem, no ifs, ands, or buts. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JY8bQWKhDUU [Embed] >> Anonymous 09/02/14(Tue)22:27:20 No.35126545▶ >>35126415 You didn't say no noes. No. >> Anonymous 09/02/14(Tue)22:28:45 No.35126624▶ >>35126864 >>35126248 I just got more confused. So the point is that a leading aristocrat will look out for their subjects because it would be good for them as well. Is that the argument for the neoreactionary movement? >> Anonymous 09/02/14(Tue)22:32:38 No.35126864▶ >>35127133 >>35131534 >>35126624 We are not really supporting the idea of that the aristocracy should rule in the name of the good of the people, that is what we oppose. Simply, by formalizing existing power structures, the elite will have financial incentives to take responsibility and uphold sound government. We believe that what is causing the most harm is the enlightenment ideals of equality and the nature of man, by getting rid of ideological government for pragmatic/efficient government we rid ourselves of the woes of liberalism. >> Anonymous 09/02/14(Tue)22:36:39 No.35127086▶ >>35127199 >>35127261 >>35125958 >A new aristocracy will be forged with fire and blood, the king most of all. These men will live in the moment, not for the moment. How do we insure longevity of this new armed warlord class (whom in the states looks like will be tea partiers)? I don't mind hierarchy but nepotism doesn't ALWAYS produce desirable results. >> Anonymous 09/02/14(Tue)22:37:28 No.35127133▶ >>35127369 >>35131534 >>35126864 Thanks! I appreciate the replies. >> Anonymous 09/02/14(Tue)22:38:38 No.35127199▶ >>35127786 >>35127086 Tea Partiers would not be the next warlord class. >> Anonymous 09/02/14(Tue)22:39:54 No.35127261▶ >>35130470 >>35127086 >I don't mind hierarchy but nepotism doesn't ALWAYS produce desirable results. There is always the problem of imperfection, which is not really a problem since "the best we can get" by definition always beats the un-achievable Utopian ideal. Unless you are prepared to rid yourself of all Utopian delusions, you have not wandered long enough to become a reactionary. >> Anonymous 09/02/14(Tue)22:41:40 No.35127369▶ >>35127133 If you are more interested I suggest you start up on http://www.moreright.net/books/Mencius%20Moldbug/Gentle%20Introduction.pdf Theden.tv radishmag.wordpress.com >> Anonymous 09/02/14(Tue)22:49:26 No.35127786▶ >>35127923 >>35127199 The social cycle always ends and begins with a power-hunger authoritarian that uses traditionalism and fertility to galvanize and revitalize the masses. Gun-toting Christians are the only people in the US that can fill that role at the moment. >> Anonymous 09/02/14(Tue)22:51:48 No.35127923▶ >>35128205 >>35127786 >The social cycle always ends and begins with a power-hunger authoritarian that uses traditionalism and fertility to galvanize and revitalize the masses. o rly >> Anonymous 09/02/14(Tue)22:56:35 No.35128205▶ >>35131509 >>35127923 Cultures don't reemerge, literally the old ways die with fertility; the patricians stop breeding and those who still keep the culture values that are favorable to breeding, stability and victory will displace the old power elite. They will build something new under the guise of preserving something old, as its always been. >> Anonymous 09/02/14(Tue)22:58:09 No.35128288▶ >>35130464 File: 1406287635832.jpg (1019 KB, 1500x984) 1019 KB books >> Anonymous NZ 09/02/14(Tue)23:09:03 No.35128829▶ >>35128985 File: n6Pg5MD.jpg (173 KB, 613x611) 173 KB >>35122645 (OP) >TFW I will never salute my grandfather's Kaiser or any of his descendants. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTO31dkDQv8 [Embed] >> Anonymous 09/02/14(Tue)23:12:03 No.35128985▶ >>35129165 File: 1409449248524.jpg (225 KB, 837x673) 225 KB >>35128829 >you were born just in time to experience the new dark ages >> Anonymous NZ 09/02/14(Tue)23:15:09 No.35129165▶ >>35130922 >>35128985 >It gives me no respite https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tw9zXepzEzA [Embed] >> Anonymous 09/02/14(Tue)23:21:37 No.35129456▶ >>35123830 That song is god tier, but at least have the decency to post a link to it http://youtu.be/cKCRHhmHvjg [Embed] >> Anonymous 09/02/14(Tue)23:26:06 No.35129659▶ >>35123830 It doesn't translate well >> Anonymous PR 09/02/14(Tue)23:28:44 No.35129760▶ >>35130163 File: Egalitarian E.png (3 KB, 228x224) 3 KB Imma leave this here. >> Anonymous 09/02/14(Tue)23:34:41 No.35130033▶ Since your theory of hierarchy is based off of economics, is there a equivalent of economic mobility in this system? >> Elisif !XeberWMtdA 09/02/14(Tue)23:36:52 No.35130122▶ >>35130305 >>35132783 File: 1409624956109.png (297 KB, 1000x1164) 297 KB You neoreactionaires know we would have you all shot before you letting you take power right? >> Anonymous 09/02/14(Tue)23:37:46 No.35130163▶ File: 1409611044742.png (39 KB, 242x300) 39 KB >>35129760 >> Anonymous MF 09/02/14(Tue)23:40:18 No.35130295▶ >>35130395 >>35125382 Military dictatorship through coup We Pinochet now >> Anonymous 09/02/14(Tue)23:40:29 No.35130305▶ >>35130407 File: 1404584255591.jpg (109 KB, 513x449) 109 KB >>35130122 >we The mob is a blind beast and war is a man's game >> Anonymous 09/02/14(Tue)23:42:38 No.35130395▶ >>35130626 >>35130295 Who will be the benevolent greater power that installs this proverbial Pinochet through their foreign intelligence service? >> Elisif !XeberWMtdA 09/02/14(Tue)23:43:01 No.35130407▶ >>35130508 >>35130592 >>35132614 File: 1409697459128.jpg (106 KB, 650x560) 106 KB >>35130305 >war There aren't enough of you to form an army sweetheart. Do you know what Otto von Bismarck said he would do if the British landed their army in Germany? I quote "I shall have them arrested." That is what we would do to your pathetic movement. >> Anonymous 09/02/14(Tue)23:44:26 No.35130464▶ >>35130597 File: Portrait_of_Pierre_Joseph(...).jpg (605 KB, 1446x1880) 605 KB Eat shit, cavemen. This is now an enlightenment thread. >>35128288 Tolkien was progressive as fuck. >> Elisif !XeberWMtdA 09/02/14(Tue)23:44:40 No.35130470▶ >>35130539 >>35130673 >>35130751 >>35130762 >>35130995 File: 1409651861142.gif (1.14 MB, 600x678) 1.14 MB >>35127261 So you agree that neoreactionaries basically want to start a violent revolution and then repress "peasants" using totalitarian means? got it >> Anonymous 09/02/14(Tue)23:45:33 No.35130508▶ >>35130631 >>35130407 On what grounds? :^) And it isn't a "movement", it's metapolitical analysis. >> Anonymous 09/02/14(Tue)23:46:11 No.35130539▶ >>35130631 >>35130650 >>35130756 >>35130470 >MUH FREEDOM >MUH PROGRESS Look at where peasant rule has gotten us: social justice cancer, social chaos and disease, mass confusion and hysteria. Any more freedom and progress and humanity is finished >> Anonymous 09/02/14(Tue)23:47:15 No.35130592▶ >>35130407 ha! you flame all you want my jarl, but we outnumber you now. the words in the streets are countering the lies on the tv. youre scared. >> Anonymous 09/02/14(Tue)23:47:18 No.35130597▶ >>35130840 >>35133063 >>35133325 File: 1400639283100.png (427 KB, 620x768) 427 KB >>35130464 Disregard barbarians. Acquire liberty. >> Anonymous 09/02/14(Tue)23:47:51 No.35130626▶ >>35130395 The US only help Pinochet, his movement was born of organic native elements. Also Chile is awesome now. Compare that to the flag bear of 1970s democracy in Latin America Venezuela. How'd that work for them? >> Elisif !XeberWMtdA 09/02/14(Tue)23:47:57 No.35130631▶ >>35130664 >>35130808 >>35130868 >>35135034 File: 9df.jpg (37 KB, 680x647) 37 KB >>35130508 You're engaging in needless semantics, but I'm not surprised given what sort of ideas you think are worthwhile. Anyone that thanks Evola seriously should just commit suicide. >>35130539 >look at where peasant rule has gotten us >little war >high standard of living >continued technological development >freedom to make our own choices >> Anonymous 09/02/14(Tue)23:48:16 No.35130650▶ >>35130539 dont encourage it. >> Anonymous 09/02/14(Tue)23:48:44 No.35130664▶ File: 1402360019601.jpg (682 KB, 3319x1867) 682 KB >>35130631 FUCK OFF ELISLUT >> Anonymous 09/02/14(Tue)23:48:59 No.35130673▶ >>35130470 Its coming faggot. Prepare now. >> Anonymous 09/02/14(Tue)23:50:57 No.35130751▶ >>35130470 >start a violent revolution Unnecessary, all that's needed is an existential "catalysis" Order will be restored in response to natural pressures. Everything in life is hierarchical, even children's games. >> Anonymous 09/02/14(Tue)23:50:59 No.35130756▶ >>35130539 >social justice cancer SJWs believe in neither freedom nor progress. >social chaos OH FUCK TWO DUDES KISSING OUR SPECIES IS DOOMED TO EXTINCTION >disease Pffhahaha oh god you're kidding, right? >mass confusion The informational age has made it a lot easier to get the truth across to everyone everywhere. >hysteria I guess I can't really argue with this one, but it's not like we were any less hysterical a few hundred years ago. It's not like we burn people alive for being witches anymore. >> Anonymous 09/02/14(Tue)23:51:05 No.35130762▶ >>35130841 >>35130470 >start a violent revolution We are not commies. It would likely look more alike to when Caesar or Napoleon took power. > and then repress "peasants" using totalitarian means? Since the regular people have no say in political matters, there is little need to educate them to believe in the correct things, hence little need for totalitarianism. >> Anonymous 09/02/14(Tue)23:52:09 No.35130808▶ >>35130841 >>35130631 >>high standard of living >>continued technological development >implying these are the result of democracy and have not happened in spite of "progress" >> Anonymous 09/02/14(Tue)23:53:00 No.35130840▶ >>35130931 File: 1401547940434.jpg (201 KB, 1000x603) 201 KB >>35130597 >> Elisif !XeberWMtdA 09/02/14(Tue)23:53:03 No.35130841▶ >>35130996 >>35130762 Caesar started a civil war you idiot, and Napoleon only took power because he was the commander of an army that was formed by by a violent revolution. >>35130808 People make that argument, but it's simply not credible. >> Anonymous 09/02/14(Tue)23:53:44 No.35130868▶ >>35130947 >>35130997 >>35130631 You think you have a choice? Are you that delusional? Sure, you can choose between an iphone and a droid, nobody's denying that, but do you really think there's any choice above the bread and circuses? How much choice do we have in government, in economic policy, in social policy? Our modern society is the same as the reactionary society we want to create, the only difference is that this modern society has wool over the eyes of the people. >> Elisif !XeberWMtdA 09/02/14(Tue)23:54:05 No.35130881▶ >>35131019 >>35131286 If you are willing to kill everyone that disagrees with you to implement your views, what makes you different from ISIS? >> Anonymous 09/02/14(Tue)23:55:09 No.35130922▶ >>35131230 >>35129165 Isn't it ironic that the most successful example of a multicultural state in history was destroyed in the name of liberalism >> Anonymous 09/02/14(Tue)23:55:18 No.35130931▶ >>35131082 File: proudhon1e1.jpg (282 KB, 1000x600) 282 KB >>35130840 >> Elisif !XeberWMtdA 09/02/14(Tue)23:55:43 No.35130947▶ >>35130994 >>35131154 >>35132302 >>35130868 I have a great deal of choice in my personal life, and although I cannot alter government policy by myself large movements can (although it is difficult). I would never trust a monarch or group of feudal rulers with power, if Stalin and Hitler taught us anything it is that concentrating the power of an industrial state in the hands of one man is a BAD idea. >> Anonymous 09/02/14(Tue)23:55:59 No.35130954▶ I WILL FOLLOW YOU TO THE CORNERS OF THE WORLD, ELISIF >> Anonymous 09/02/14(Tue)23:56:50 No.35130994▶ >>35130947 Hi there! You seem to have made a bit of a mistake in your post. Luckily, the users of 4chan are always willing to help you clear this problem right up! You appear to have used a tripcode when posting, but your identity has nothing at all to do with the conversation! Whoops! You should always remember to stop using your tripcode when the thread it was used for is gone, unless another one is started! Posting with a tripcode when it isn't necessary is poor form. You should always try to post anonymously, unless your identity is absolutely vital to the post that you're making! Now, there's no need to thank me - I'm just doing my bit to help you get used to the anonymous image-board culture! >> Anonymous 09/02/14(Tue)23:56:51 No.35130995▶ >>35131025 >>35130470 >totalitarian Generally the thing that separates fascists from reactionaries is that tend to reject totalitarianism . >> Anonymous 09/02/14(Tue)23:56:51 No.35130996▶ >>35130841 >Caesar started a civil war you idiot, and Napoleon only took power because he was the commander of an army And did the people not welcome him with open arms? >People make that argument, but it's simply not credible You're right. Technological development was completely stagnant before modern liberal democracy. Nothing was ever invented until muh freedom and much liberty. >> Anonymous 09/02/14(Tue)23:56:56 No.35130997▶ >>35131085 >>35130868 >the only difference is that this modern society has wool over the eyes of the people. This, actually, though not what you meant I'm sure. Its not exactly fair to get mad at Enlightenment Ideals for 'ruining' the West, when Enlightenment Ideals are what made the West the strongest civilization in the world. Whats ruined the West, is moral failure, and left authoritarianism. Its not Liberty thats killed us, its its misuse, combined with people who HATE Liberty. Social Justice Warriors, modern liberals, all those people are anything BUT libertarian. They don't want you to be free, they don't want you to have a choice, they want you to obey their rules, their ways, and accept and tolerate their lifestyles no matter how decadent. What we need in the West isn't a good King, what we need is a moral revival, liberalization and purging of the halls of government and commerce, and alot of rope. >> Anonymous 09/02/14(Tue)23:57:26 No.35131019▶ >>35130881 >kill Exile works too >we need to be tolerant and learn to live together XD >> Elisif !XeberWMtdA 09/02/14(Tue)23:57:37 No.35131025▶ >>35131081 >>35131258 >>35130995 And the problem with "rejecting" totalitarianism while supporting authoritarian rulers is that authoritarian rulers don't have to care about what you reject >> Anonymous 09/02/14(Tue)23:59:00 No.35131081▶ File: 1408397215495.jpg (172 KB, 1280x778) 172 KB >>35131025 Hi there! You seem to have made a bit of a mistake in your post. Luckily, the users of 4chan are always willing to help you clear this problem right up! You appear to have used a tripcode when posting, but your identity has nothing at all to do with the conversation! Whoops! You should always remember to stop using your tripcode when the thread it was used for is gone, unless another one is started! Posting with a tripcode when it isn't necessary is poor form. You should always try to post anonymously, unless your identity is absolutely vital to the post that you're making! Now, there's no need to thank me - I'm just doing my bit to help you get used to the anonymous image-board culture! >> Anonymous 09/02/14(Tue)23:58:59 No.35131082▶ >>35134154 File: 1402458093850.jpg (409 KB, 1860x887) 409 KB >>35130931 >> Elisif !XeberWMtdA 09/02/14(Tue)23:59:08 No.35131085▶ >>35131127 >>35131201 >>35130997 It's funny that you decry the loss of virtue while attacking SJW. SJWs believe in social virtue and are enforcing their moral system using non-coercive means in the private sphere. That is exactly what a lot of the people that want us to return to traditional values would like to do, but their values are different. >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)00:00:09 No.35131127▶ >>35131185 File: 1409058917634.jpg (198 KB, 1900x1200) 198 KB >>35131085 Hi there! You seem to have made a bit of a mistake in your post. Luckily, the users of 4chan are always willing to help you clear this problem right up! You appear to have used a tripcode when posting, but your identity has nothing at all to do with the conversation! Whoops! You should always remember to stop using your tripcode when the thread it was used for is gone, unless another one is started! Posting with a tripcode when it isn't necessary is poor form. You should always try to post anonymously, unless your identity is absolutely vital to the post that you're making! Now, there's no need to thank me - I'm just doing my bit to help you get used to the anonymous image-board culture! >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)00:00:44 No.35131145▶ >>35135148 File: the road to decadence.png (701 KB, 640x480) 701 KB >>35122645 (OP) >Rotherham >greatest example of decay I would like to agree with you. I really would. But organized pedophile rings have been able to get away with abusing lots of children with the help of ignorance and blind eyes from law enforcement for centuries. The only thing new about Rotherham is that they were Pakis. I suppose you are right in one sense though. Bear with me here: Organized pedo shit is bad, but it is something that happens in almost every society. But only a really weak one would let immigrants get away with it in plain sight. Most of the time it thrives among natives in powerful or trusted positions. In modern Britain, they have both. Or maybe: the degeneracy of elite white pedos in Britain pre-saged the double-degeneracy of the Rotherham pedos. I dunno, just some thoughts. >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)00:00:57 No.35131154▶ >>35131185 >>35130947 Nazi Germany and Soviet Russia were the two biggest economic turnarounds in history. Now they sure as hell aren't poster boys for how to rule, but if you compare them to what came before them, I'd say they did a pretty damn good job. If that's the worse example you can throw at me, I'm afraid you don't have much of an argument. >> Elisif !XeberWMtdA 09/03/14(Wed)00:01:51 No.35131185▶ >>35131259 >>35131352 >>35131127 That's nice, but I've declared myself empress of this thread and in true neoreactionary fashion don't care about your objections >>35131154 Turning around a society destroyed by World War 1 isn't that impressive. Any coherent social order could have done that, and both the Soviets and the Nazis had retarded economic policies. >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)00:02:10 No.35131201▶ >>35131257 >>35131085 Well the difference is we have different value-systems. I have no problem with legislating morality, as long as its my morality they're legislating. The difference is that I also believe in liberty, and thus think that not ALL morality should be legislated. I think masturbation is wrong, I'm not about to put a tax on it or walk around inspecting people's underwear. The difference between me and SJWs is that they're totalitarian, I'm just moralizing. I'd ban the worst extravagances of moral decadence, and then leave the rest of it to private citizens to deal with. Besides the big problems, its none of my damn business what other people are doing. >> Anonymous NZ 09/03/14(Wed)00:03:08 No.35131230▶ File: 1407812805745.jpg (190 KB, 960x895) 190 KB >>35130922 It's an irony that isn't lost on me ;_; >> Antisthenes !6BUz54j/mA 09/03/14(Wed)00:03:39 No.35131248▶ >>35131332 >>35122645 (OP) Who /outside in/ here? >> Elisif !XeberWMtdA 09/03/14(Wed)00:03:57 No.35131257▶ >>35131376 >>35132553 >>35131201 The phrase "legislating morality" is misleading. Stopping someone from murdering someone else is legislating morality, but most of the time people mean that you shouldn't use the law to restrict private decisions that don't affect third parties. Freedom is a good thing, generally. >difference between me and SJWs is that they're totalitarian, I'm just moralizing. I'' Most of them use non-government means to shame their enemies. Seems fine to me. >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)00:03:56 No.35131258▶ >>35131318 >>35131025 That really isn't supported by history. If you looked and Second Reich Germany and Austria-Hungary they both had Authoritarian governments but were by no means totalitarian in nature. Even the in late Russian Empire, which was the most autocratic state in Europe, there were political parties and a press separate from the state (though under heavy censorship) >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)00:03:56 No.35131259▶ >>35131185 Please, please go back to SFW boards so /pol/ can stay clean of you. >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)00:04:34 No.35131286▶ >>35130881 >what makes you different from ISIS? Well, we're Westerners for a start. >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)00:05:01 No.35131307▶ >>35124223 Polish cavalry officer, 1812 >> Elisif !XeberWMtdA 09/03/14(Wed)00:05:21 No.35131318▶ >>35131433 >>35131258 Germany under the Kaisers wasn't around very long, but it actually had a legislature that constrained the powers of the monarch. So that example just doesn't even make sense, especially since the Kaiser arguably caused World War 1. Austria-Hungary was a violent empire that was hated by many of its subjects, especially the Serbs. The idea that >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)00:05:36 No.35131332▶ >>35131397 >>35131248 >wanting to be turned into paper clips Landists pls go >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)00:06:12 No.35131352▶ >>35131440 >>35131185 >Turning around a society destroyed by World War 1 isn't that impressive I'm not sure if you're trolling here or not. The post-WW1 German economy was in literal shambles, the likes of which had and still hasn't been seen in the modern world. It's funny though, you seem to be acting like that was an easy thing to accomplish, but the democratic Wiemar government sure as hell couldn't get it done. It took a strong, centralized leadership to do that, something that could only happen under a authoritarian government ala Hitler. >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)00:06:45 No.35131376▶ >>35131257 Most of the time people saying they don't want legislated morality mean they don't' want YOUR morality being legislated. The liberals who get all assblasted about legislating sexual morals turn around and use that same law to beat people who refuse to accept THEIR sexual morals. The whole concept of being against legislating morality is stupid, legislation is moral by definition [that is, the subject of Law is always some desired good end]. >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)00:06:47 No.35131378▶ File: tripfag.png (63 KB, 1125x681) 63 KB >responding to tripfags I'm out. Have a good one, guys. >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)00:07:11 No.35131395▶ >>35122645 (OP) Equality. The belief that all are equal and as long as we progress towards equality, everything will improve for those who have been treated unequally in the favour of white males. And for the white males, everything will be worse because they will fall out of favour as we progress toward equality. Except when white males impose standards of equality on others, they don't like it. Either equality is a foolish concept or it's ok to oppress white males because some are more equal than others. Pick one. >> Antisthenes !6BUz54j/mA 09/03/14(Wed)00:07:13 No.35131397▶ >>35131332 >he doesn't even accelerate >he doesn't know about the ratchet >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)00:07:49 No.35131433▶ >>35131318 Why the fuck are you trip fagging >> Elisif !XeberWMtdA 09/03/14(Wed)00:07:56 No.35131440▶ >>35131493 >>35131802 >>35131352 Germany wasn't directly touched by the war, and it has a very strong industrial base and a reasonable agricultural base in places like East Prussia. Their society was in disarray because of the war, but the fundamental economic factors weren't as bad as you are implying. >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)00:09:22 No.35131493▶ >>35131537 >>35131546 >>35131560 >>35131440 Are you fucking with us right now? >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)00:09:47 No.35131509▶ >>35132436 >>35128205 this is why islam will dominate europe >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)00:10:27 No.35131534▶ >>35132515 File: 1372382828695.jpg (296 KB, 1600x986) 296 KB >>35125782 This is correct. But also, neo-reaction is about a value shift, away from the pure capitalism of today. A reactionary society values certain things above pure material wealth. The spiritual purity of the population, its way of life, its ethnic/cultural composition, its traditions, many would say (gasp) the natural environment. So organic culture serves as a tool to prevent the excesses of capitalism (destitution for some, degeneracy for all). >>35125382 A Messiah, or Messiahs, will come. When humanity needs them, men of great spiritual strength will arise, who possess pure AUCTORITAS. They will rise out of the crisis of this age. >>35126864 >>35127133 Anon is pretty much correct, reactionary governments seek to produce a good government that is appropriate to the culture that created it, minus the ideology. >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)00:10:34 No.35131537▶ >>35131493 >replying to tripfags >female tripfags on top of that top kek >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)00:10:45 No.35131546▶ >>35131493 Plz ignore tripfag >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)00:10:55 No.35131552▶ >>35124476 A small group of writers that recognize that Enlightenment thought is corrosive but have not yet realized that they, too, use Modernism to filter reality. There hearts are in the right place but they aren't quite to the destination as of yet. OP - did you get the song from King Richard's tweet? >> Elisif !XeberWMtdA 09/03/14(Wed)00:11:14 No.35131560▶ >>35131750 >>35131833 >>35131493 No, I'm being completely serious. The military dictators of Germany, Hindenburg and Ludendorff, surrendered before Germany was invaded because they believed the war was lost. All those German factories and farms were still there. >> Anonymous TP 09/03/14(Wed)00:12:13 No.35131601▶ >>35131679 File: image.jpg (26 KB, 600x200) 26 KB >>35122645 (OP) Am i reactionary enough to be invited? *if not fuck you im staying anyway* >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)00:30:37 No.35131679▶ >>35131772 >>35131601 Where is that from? >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)00:30:46 No.35131682▶ >>35133870 File: Screen Shot 2014-09-02 at(...).png (206 KB, 324x500) 206 KB >>35122645 (OP) have you read this book? if not you should. >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)00:31:15 No.35131695▶ >>35122645 (OP) >this video is not available in your country >Quebec band >I'm Canadian >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)00:33:01 No.35131750▶ >>35131560 yes, and the colonies were gone, a major industrial/resource region was carved off by france, and they were forced to pay reparations as well as have their government reconstituted. They just finished fighting a long war with gigantic casualties and resources spent, one that near-bankrupted almost every participant involved. You're fucking delusional. >> Anonymous TP 09/03/14(Wed)00:33:29 No.35131772▶ >>35131679 http://www.politicaltest.net Here you go faggot i hope it works for you the site was down the other day Post your results >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)00:34:21 No.35131802▶ >>35131440 >>35131440 It doesn't matter whether they had the resource base to create a strong economy. Post colonial Africa had and still has the resources to create a strong economy. It all doesn't mean shit if you don't use it the right way. It was never going to get used the right was under a democratic government. I don't know how stupid you have to be to think the Wiemar government could have ever economically accomplished what the Nazis did, but you seem to think that, and it's completely unbased, It was more profitable to burn you money for heat than use that money to buy firewood because of the hyper-stagflation. The only way that could have ever changed was under the wing of a strong, centralized leadership like the Nazis. Idk if you're not agreeing with me because 'EBIL NAZIS NEVER DID ANYTHING GOOD' or if you're just daft, but maybe you should research some more into the matter before you continue arguing it. >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)00:34:31 No.35131812▶ >>35132017 It's like NatSoc, only with more fedora tipping! >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)00:34:48 No.35131833▶ >>35131560 >>35131560 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Versailles Read this and understand that a manufacturing base means nothing if your currency is being debased by repearations. Seriously, this is essentially a non-topic. The measures imposed by said treaty are the well accepted reasons as to why the German economy collapsed. >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)00:35:34 No.35131871▶ >>35132231 File: Edward_John_Poynter_-_Fai(...).jpg (3.46 MB, 3029x4665) 3.46 MB "Faced as we are with this destiny, there is only one world-outlook that is worthy of us, that which has already been mentioned as the Choice of Achilles — better a short life, full of deeds and glory, than a long life without content. Already the danger is so great, for every individual, every class, every nation, that to cherish any illusion whatever is deplorable. The march of time cannot be halted; there is no question of prudent retreat or clever renunciation. Only dreamers believe there is a way out. Optimism is cowardice. “We are born into this time and must bravely follow the path to the destined end. There is no other way. Our duty is to hold on…without hope, without rescue, like that Roman soldier whose bones were found in front of a door in Pompeii, who, during the eruption of Vesuvius, died at his post because they forgot to relieve him. That is greatness. That is what it means to be a thoroughbred. The honorable end is the one thing that can not be taken from a man.” >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)00:37:31 No.35131937▶ >>35133354 >>35122645 (OP) >neoreactionary You can't have neoreactionaries. It's a contradiction in terms. You're not a neoreactionary. You're a reactionary. I can't take you seriously if you can't even speak English. >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)00:39:39 No.35132017▶ >>35132167 File: kaiser reich.jpg (206 KB, 800x526) 206 KB >>35131812 >implying that the stormcuck regime was not a pitiful echo of glorious Imperial Germany. >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)00:42:26 No.35132098 ▶ File: 1401772811430.jpg (290 KB, 791x1024) 290 KB Can we post agin? test >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)00:44:26 No.35132167 ▶ >>35132758 >>35132017 this. It was a failure, and therefore the only thing we can rationally and rightly do is denounce it as a regime of terror that tore a hole in Europe, demonized European ethnic nationalism and caused the leftist radicalization of a generation. >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)00:45:45 No.35132205 ▶ >>35124223 1 September 1715 – 10 May 1774 France >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)00:46:41 No.35132231 ▶ >>35133914 >>35131871 Source of this quote? I'm pretty sure it's Evola? "The chimney smokes, I'm leaving the room, why make more of it than that?" -Marcus Aurelius Don't fear death, death is coming for us all, you can't avoid it, you can avoid a dishonorable existence, an existence that makes you feel your nature is degraded >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)00:48:48 No.35132285 ▶ File: le cleggers face.png (164 KB, 335x412) 164 KB It is not the character that you observe in the little men of the old parties, blown hither and thither by every gust of convenience opinion, elated by a little success, downcast by a little failure, gossiping and chattering about the prospects of the next five minutes, jostling for place, but not so forward in service. Without loyalty, endurance, or staying power, such a character is the hallmark of financial democratic politics. I dont like democracy or capitalism. Can I stay? >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)00:48:59 No.35132289 ▶ >>35132479 >>35132483 >>35132556 >>35132604 >>35132641 >>35135248 File: 1345650404101.jpg (22 KB, 600x500) 22 KB Neoreactionaries are the latest in a long line of intellectuals who somehow think that their chosen authoritarian thugs wouldn't put you up against the wall; possibly by using sheer volume of words as a bulletproof shield. You call back to ideologies that gave way to the very systems you hate; have you ever thought as to why? Bringing back pre-enlightenment ideals won't solve anything; it'll only perpetuate the cyclical nature of history. And no, technological progress won't change that for as long as the human condition persists. So good luck getting that to happen. >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)00:49:25 No.35132302 ▶ >>35130947 stalin: turned an agrarian society stuck in the 17th century into the worlds preeminent land based superpower hitler: spread the idea of a state funded highway system, jet travel, space travel, machine stamping, LSD and other actually useful chems, turned a nation in utter defeat and chaos into the worlds greatest superpower ranking only behind the USA because it lost a war in little more than 10 years. …… >faksim iz bad fuze my professor judah told us that democracy is really good and reminded me to vote for carl levin this november, he is really looking out for my freedom >> Anonymous RB 09/03/14(Wed)00:49:25 No.35132304 ▶ File: Y0oCuis.gif (768 KB, 500x610) 768 KB Monarchy is for fags. Fuck them and fuck the aristocracy. Fuck them to death. >> Anonymous NZ 09/03/14(Wed)00:50:42 No.35132339 ▶ >>35132374 pathchan.org >> Anonymous TP 09/03/14(Wed)00:51:57 No.35132374 ▶ >>35132339 What is this? Can i trust it? >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)00:53:47 No.35132436 ▶ >>35131509 Underrated blasphemy. >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)00:54:46 No.35132479 ▶ >>35132289 What's your point? >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)00:54:48 No.35132483 ▶ >>35132289 >their chosen authoritarian thugs what is voting? >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)00:55:43 No.35132515 ▶ >>35132663 >>35132696 >>35131534 >But also, neo-reaction is about a value shift, away from the pure capitalism of today. apparently nobody's informed nick land of this pretty sure dugin, the ENR, archeofuturism are more up your alley than NRx >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)00:56:47 No.35132553 ▶ >>35131257 fuck off you little fucking tripfaggot like, you aren't even coherently making an argument against "neo-reaction" (which is in itself a reaction against liberal policies in this day and age) you are simply and ironically reacting to it from a faux superior standpoint of the contrarian, hence your use of a trip. if you read the canon you'd know that the "movement" sees the development of "caesarism" as inevitable, and perhaps not in the best interests of the various idealists within the "movement" most principally, the White Nationalists, who could be republican, monarchic, communist or anarchists. you are completely over your head so drop the sense of superiority and go back to fucking /b/ or /v/ or whatever cancerous hell pit you crawled from you sniveling shit >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)00:56:52 No.35132556 ▶ >>35132289 >criticism of neoreaction written by someone who literally does not understand neoreaction >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)00:58:34 No.35132604 ▶ >>35132289 >the social cycle is bad natural selection. a stronger system will emerge as it does every-time. the chaos of the fall of roman and the constant competition of warring states allowed europe to go from meaningless backwater of the world to the unchallenged center of world hegemony BECAUSE of the competition between states, bureaucracies, nobles, ideologies, techniques driving society to constantly be at the peak of efficiency. repairing a stagnated system is meaningless. >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)00:58:56 No.35132614 ▶ >>35132654 >>35130407 You do know Germany lost that war to Britain right? >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)00:59:28 No.35132641 ▶ File: react jimmies.jpg (135 KB, 317x320) 135 KB >>35132289 >> Anonymous RB 09/03/14(Wed)00:59:55 No.35132654 ▶ >>35132763 >>35132614 Germany lost the war to the Russian. Daft cunt. >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)01:00:06 No.35132663 ▶ >>35132783 File: TheTempleGates.gif (94 KB, 519x695) 94 KB >>35132515 Who made Nick Land king? Well, for now it's a broad-tent movement, and usually there's more people like me in these threads. /pol/'s NRxers like Evola and Spengler. So I'm going to stay. >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)01:01:09 No.35132696 ▶ >>35132783 >>35132515 Also, what's this ENR? >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)01:02:03 No.35132738 ▶ >>35133933 http://www.reddit.com/r/DarkEnlightenment/ >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)01:02:27 No.35132758 ▶ >>35133046 File: wilhelm on hitler.jpg (1.19 MB, 1316x2424) 1.19 MB >>35132167 Exactly. pic related inb4 >B-BUT KAISER WILHELM WAS A BAD KING just read it >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)01:02:39 No.35132763 ▶ >>35132900 >>35132654 >Germany lost the war to the Russian. Daft cunt. Americuck pls, Russia got btfo'ed during WW1. >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)01:03:08 No.35132783 ▶ >>35132871 >>35132977 >>35130122 >implying the current order has the will to have anybody shot you can't even bring yourselves to gun down mobs of feral chimps when an army shows up, whether it's the chinese, your own military launching a coup, or someone else, you'll piss yourselves and surrender >>35132663 >Well, for now it's a broad-tent movement yes, which is why saying the movement as a whole is about a value shift away from capitalism makes no sense--the anissimov wing likes that stuff, but nick land's views are probably closer to pure capitalism than anyone else who has ever existed >>35132696 european new right >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)01:04:59 No.35132855 ▶ I have no real perspective on what it was like to live in a monarchy or in older times but I assume that it must be awesome because my life sucks now. It sucks because I cant handle any kind of freedom and have poor decision making skills so I would rather have everything dictated to me by a king who may or may not turn out to be an insane tyrant who will put me to death at the first sign of disagreement. I am a huge fucking coward please fuck my face hole. >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)01:05:02 No.35132857 ▶ >>35132971 File: chinese revolution.jpg (45 KB, 600x255) 45 KB I know that you guys all have a hardon for 18th century Europe, but what do you think about the Chinese Revolution? We can all agree that the communist revolution fucked the country beyond belief, but if it were 1911, would you support the Ming Dynasty or the Kuomintang? >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)01:05:27 No.35132871 ▶ File: futureof4chan.png (941 KB, 1344x2492) 941 KB >>35132783 >yes, which is why saying the movement as a whole is about a value shift away from capitalism makes no sense B-but my opinion! ITS THE BEST OPINON THERE IS Nah you're right pic totally unrelated but humorous >> Anonymous RB 09/03/14(Wed)01:06:16 No.35132900 ▶ >>35132763 >1.19 MB Clue yourself up dickbrain >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)01:06:23 No.35132903 ▶ >>35133030 >>35124815 So surely you've read Hoppe? >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)01:08:25 No.35132971 ▶ >>35132857 *Qing dynasty I'm a dumbass tonight. Sorry. >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)01:08:45 No.35132977 ▶ >>35133052 >>35133077 >>35133384 >>35132783 >yes, which is why saying the movement as a whole is about a value shift away from capitalism makes no sense--the anissimov wing likes that stuff, but nick land's views are probably closer to pure capitalism than anyone else who has ever existed I think the movement is suffering because of that most people are ex-libertarians. Still, we need to think up a decent criticism of capitalism that is not leftist. Frankly, I think the spontaneous order of the invisible hand is pretty close to the organic order of tradition. But then again I am one of those ex-libertarians. >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)01:10:30 No.35133030 ▶ >>35132903 Yes I have read Hoppe, he was my bridge to Moldbug. >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)01:11:03 No.35133046 ▶ >>35132758 His criticism is fair but that doesn't make him any less of a failure when it comes to geo-politics and governing. >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)01:11:11 No.35133052 ▶ >>35133257 >>35132977 >descent critique What good is all this wealth if it isn't actually making people happier. How can you be happy if your life has no purpose. Does life have purpose in a capitalist system? >old organic order Research how life worked in medieval peasant villages. They had more leisure time than us and a built-in, if precarious social safety network >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)01:11:33 No.35133063 ▶ >>35130597 > Thomas Jefferson > Didn't invent the concept of the natural aristocracy > Didn't believe it was the civic duty of citizens to prop up the natural aristocracy > the founders were left-libertarians The founders were not enlightenment thinkers, in every meaningful measure they were pre-enlightenment, sympathetic but extremely cautious. They were federalists (except for the anti-federalists but we don't talk about them) They despised equality, they despised democracy, they did not believe any more in the ability of the common man to hold government than they believed in ability of single men to in heret government, this is why they framed themselves so steadfastly in the rule of law over the rule of man. Law was the government the founders tried to build, not the liberal democracies of the modern era. The abuse of the founders by every head of the Illuminist hydra, is the greatest tragedy of history America has ever permitted on it's watch. >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)01:12:18 No.35133077 ▶ >>35132977 >Frankly, I think the spontaneous order of the invisible hand is pretty close to the organic order of tradition. sure, in the narrow set of circumstances we've lived most of our history in. technological change could drive them radically apart--robin hanson has written about what happens under a market system when you can mass produce minds and it's not pretty if you're nick land, of course, you don't care about this because you're an antihumanist. for the rest of us it's kind of a problem >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)01:12:19 No.35133078 ▶ >>35133180 >>35133187 >>35124476 It's a collective of men in the early 20s who grew up listening to rap, watching anime and then deciding to pretend they enjoy classical music and art because it makes them more "conservative" Even the term "dark enlightenment" shows how gay they are. If what you're saying is just common sense and positive, then why call it "dark"? >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)01:13:51 No.35133126 ▶ File: aeaedb7f74a76b81a260f6bb6(...).png (404 KB, 436x441) 404 KB >>35122645 (OP) >mfw someone was a repuiblican near me >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)01:15:07 No.35133180 ▶ >>35133078 It's a play on words dumbass. The dark comes from the phrase dark ages >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)01:15:19 No.35133187 ▶ >>35134041 >>35133078 >Even the term "dark enlightenment" shows how gay they are. If what you're saying is just common sense and positive, then why call it "dark"? Because it's ideologically opposed to the historic "enlightenment", the endarkening or Obscurement or Occult or Umbreon all sound gay as well. There's noreal attractive word for the opposite of "to make bright" in english. >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)01:16:44 No.35133229 ▶ >>35133274 File: 10601305_1020484556388509(...).jpg (68 KB, 717x960) 68 KB >>35122645 (OP) What are some reactonary sports >Bullfighting (not really a sport but fuck off) >Mesnur >Fencing >wrestling >Equestrian >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)01:17:31 No.35133257 ▶ >>35133052 >happiness is the final good >you have to have a purpose to be happy >relying on prevailing economic systems to give your life purpose Please don't use these. >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)01:18:17 No.35133274 ▶ >>35133229 Sport hunting of peasants? >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)01:19:18 No.35133313 ▶ >>35124662 >There is not really a movement, just a bunch of bloggers really. So its not worth shit then? Got you. >Moldbugs Gentle introduction >"Well you see we know that there are bunch of blogging shit stains out there who claim to have "the red pill" (red pill being a buzzword meant to make the person feel like if he buys what ever garbage he is reading he will be cool and enlightened just like Neo from the matrix) but I assure you that our "red pill" is the real one!" Dropped. >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)01:19:37 No.35133325 ▶ >>35130597 When the populace has seen that all sorts of concessions and indulgences are yielded it in the name of freedom it has imagined itself to be sovereign lord and has stormed its way to power, but, naturally like every other blind man, it has come upon a host of stumbling blocks. IT HAS RUSHED TO FIND A GUIDE, IT HAS NEVER HAD THE SENSE TO RETURN TO THE FORMER STATE and it has laid down its plenipotentiary powers at OUR feet. Remember the French Revolution, to which it was we [the Philadelphes (ie.e French branch of the Illuminati)]who gave the name of "Great": the secrets of its preparations are well known to us for it was wholly the work of our hands. The word "freedom" brings out the communities of men to fight against every kind of force, against every kind of authority even against God and the laws of nature. For this reason we, when we come into our kingdom, shall have to erase this word from the lexicon of life as implying a principle of brute force which turns mobs into bloodthirsty beasts. >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)01:20:15 No.35133354 ▶ >>35133917 File: logh5.png (319 KB, 531x379) 319 KB >>35131937 Look everyone, it's a lingual prescriptivist! >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)01:21:13 No.35133384 ▶ >>35133413 >>35133493 File: Screen Shot 2014-09-02 at(...).png (1.61 MB, 828x1111) 1.61 MB >>35132977 It's not the methods of capitalism that are completely wrong, it's the hedonism that capitalists participate in. >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)01:22:08 No.35133413 ▶ File: Screen Shot 2014-09-02 at(...).png (1.61 MB, 828x1112) 1.61 MB >>35133384 part 2 >> Anonymous RB 09/03/14(Wed)01:22:28 No.35133425 ▶ >>35133468 >>35133495 >>35133507 >>35133530 >>35133659 Noe-reactionaries have to be the biggest spineless servile faggots ever known. Think forwards, not backwards >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)01:23:37 No.35133468 ▶ >>35133425 >thinking in a straight line >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)01:24:15 No.35133493 ▶ >>35133384 in the long run, hedonists get eaten anything that doesn't optimize solely for its continued existence will get outcompeted by stuff that does unless someone gets lucky and builds a singleton >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)01:24:16 No.35133495 ▶ >>35133425 >rejecting hierarchy like a faggot >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)01:24:31 No.35133507 ▶ >>35133425 dat whig history. >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)01:25:10 No.35133530 ▶ >>35133623 >>35133425 >implying "progress" isn't moving us forward in the wrong direction >> Anonymous RB 09/03/14(Wed)01:27:00 No.35133603 ▶ Go angry Neo-reactionary fags! >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)01:27:35 No.35133623 ▶ File: 7637245727.jpg (24 KB, 289x372) 24 KB >>35133530 >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)01:27:51 No.35133633 ▶ >>35133699 >>35133734 File: Jetsun-Pema.jpg (240 KB, 903x1371) 240 KB The world's happiest nation is Bhutan and it's pretty damn reactionary. Not completely but heavily, more so than most countries Face it, in a capitalist-democratic-egalitarian faggotopia you will never be ruled by a beautiful Dragon Queen >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)01:28:33 No.35133659 ▶ >>35133425 Every regime and/or political order that takes power can claim all progress and "the right side of history". It's completely meaningless. >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)01:29:11 No.35133682 ▶ File: evola.jpg (357 KB, 1600x1400) 357 KB yep >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)01:29:39 No.35133699 ▶ File: dk.jpg (91 KB, 931x960) 91 KB >>35133633 >Gross National Happiness. “I have no intention to allow technology and money to savage the ageless beauty of this land, its social harmony, the blend of its past, present and future." His Majesty Druk Gyalpo Jigme Singye Wangchuck, The Great Fourth, 1988 >"Bhutan will develop, yes but, the Bhutanese people will keep faith with their traditional human values. They will move to the future as united people, not as people divided and disarrayed by ethnic and other hatreds. We are not in a hurry. Time is a friend and an ally. While other nations are concerned with raising their gross national product, our concern in Bhutan is raising the gross national happiness.” Based dragon king Funny you should mention Bhutan, Ive been really intrested in them in the last week or so >> Anonymous RB 09/03/14(Wed)01:30:38 No.35133734 ▶ >>35133791 >>35133833 >>35133862 >>35133633 Fuck off there then and worship your "superiors" >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)01:31:18 No.35133762 ▶ >>35124223 With my Nordic ancestors, tending to my farmland and supporting my family group. >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)01:32:01 No.35133791 ▶ >>35133734 >implying you wouldn't worship the Dragon Queen's delicious slit with your tounge It's as fresh as the air in a Himalayan meadow >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)01:33:04 No.35133833 ▶ >>35133734 >being this asspained people reject modern vanity and seek self improvment though spiritual enlightenment >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)01:33:43 No.35133862 ▶ >>35133966 >>35133734 >implying that progressives don't worship St: Mandela and His Holiness Barack Obama. >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)01:33:59 No.35133870 ▶ >>35131682 Good book, I agreed with roughly 90% of what was said. I'm currently reading the Handbook of Traditional Living. >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)01:34:56 No.35133911 ▶ >>35134007 So..what's you guys' endgame? Dismantling industrial civilization and democracy, then going back to the 19th century? Yo do realize modern society is only possible because of our technological level, don't you? As long as you have that, democracy and the desire for equality will always reemerge. >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)01:35:01 No.35133914 ▶ >>35132231 Pretty sure it was Spengler. >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)01:35:06 No.35133917 ▶ >>35133354 Nigga, you're fucking wrong. Sure, you can say that in *your* version of English it makes sense but we aren't speaking your version of English we're speaking fucking regular plain English. And calling yourself a neoreactionary in regular plain English is regular plain wrong. W-R-O-N-G. So you can call yourself whatever you want, but if you willingly choose to use stupid made up bullshit words instead of the correct words that mean literally exactly the same thing I'm going to call you a retard, and I'm not going to take you seriously. >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)01:35:47 No.35133933 ▶ >>35132738 >reddit LaughingWhores.jpg >> Anonymous RB 09/03/14(Wed)01:36:53 No.35133966 ▶ >>35134004 >>35134069 >>35133862 Fake progressives maybe. The true ones worship nothing. Maybe you Neo-reactionary spunk bubbles should go play Populous >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)01:37:48 No.35134002 ▶ Drink cum, leftist faggot! >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)01:37:48 No.35134004 ▶ >>35133966 >being this mad >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)01:37:51 No.35134007 ▶ >>35133911 1. wait for human genetic modification 2. caste system/aristocracy 3. ???? 4. profit yup. >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)01:38:13 No.35134017 ▶ >>35134119 >>35134323 >>35134332 >Monarchists Why? >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)01:38:49 No.35134041 ▶ >>35133187 >There's no real attractive word for the opposite of "to make bright" in english. Then don't try and make a gay play on words if you know it isn't going to sound good. But that's the problem - these people *do* think it sounds good, because they're teenagers and edgelords. They legitimately think that a "dark enlightenment" is some cool awesome thing, and probably they jack off to Cologne Cathedral at night. If I were them, I'd call it obscurantism, because obscurantism is a real thing. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obscurantism >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)01:39:28 No.35134069 ▶ >>35133966 >Fake progressives maybe. The true ones worship nothing. This reminds me of a quintessential Scotsman. >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)01:40:41 No.35134119 ▶ >>35134177 >>35134256 >>35134332 >>35134017 Why not? Its funny people on this board get more asspained about monarchists as opposed to fascists,Nazis, commies >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)01:40:48 No.35134126 ▶ This is a perfect case of throwing the babby out with the bathwater. >some parts of our system aren't perfect >better tear down the whole fucking thing then >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)01:40:58 No.35134134 ▶ >>35134227 >muh hierarchy >muh caste society Just like any other authoritarian, neoreactionaries always assume that somehow they will be a part of this new "aristocracy" just because. >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)01:41:15 No.35134154 ▶ File: 1355786257922.jpg (81 KB, 528x396) 81 KB >>35131082 >Mfw I realized Gnosticism was correct. >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)01:41:44 No.35134168 ▶ >People trying to codify reactionary to mean their select brand of archaic bullshit Pro-tip, reactionary is a generic term to describe people with the desire to return to the previous state of affairs. It's completely possible to be reactionary and be a communist by being from an ex-communist country. >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)01:41:50 No.35134177 ▶ >>35134219 >>35134332 >>35134119 Because at least fascists, Nazis and commies have an actual case to make. Monarchists are just fucking stupid. >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)01:42:20 No.35134190 ▶ You guys are a joke, I mean if you want political power and impose a king on your country...why don't you just rebel and try it? If you're not going to do it for whatever reason, who the hell would you even appoint as king? Why the fuck do you want an aristocracy AGAIN? Jesus, you guys suck >> Anonymous RB 09/03/14(Wed)01:42:44 No.35134212 ▶ Monarchists generally lack a spine. Slugs have more worth. >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)01:42:47 No.35134219 ▶ >>35134177 monarchists r dum >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)01:43:05 No.35134227 ▶ >>35134134 >>implying that you are the equal of the oligarchs of today. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_law_of_oligarchy >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)01:43:09 No.35134231 ▶ >>35134400 >>35134441 I find it amazing that the NEETs and autists of the world, the people who benefit from social equality and tolerance the most, become neo-Nazis, monarchists, etc. while the charismatic and revered members of society are democratic socialists. It's interesting to see how the feelings of guilt and shame plague both groups of people and drive them to form their particular political views. >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)01:43:53 No.35134256 ▶ >>35134332 >>35134345 >>35134519 >>35134119 Because there's some kind of meritocratic grounding to fascism or communism or whatever. Monarchism is just . . . why? Why is the first born child from the royal vagina a good method of choosing the head of state? >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)01:44:50 No.35134291 ▶ >>35122645 (OP) >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKCRHhmHvjg [Embed] Bam, right in the fucking feels. I'm not even part of your gay club but this fucking song, man. >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)01:45:41 No.35134323 ▶ >>35134017 After seeing this thread >>35122143 → Im sure some people shouldnt have the right to vote. >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)01:45:50 No.35134331 ▶ >>35122645 (OP) 'e' is not a negating-prefix /thread >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)01:45:52 No.35134332 ▶ File: 1407355112700.jpg (85 KB, 496x648) 85 KB >>35134017 >>35134119 >>35134177 >>35134256 The reason we get flak is because we don't generally participate in populism, and don't make a claim of utopia. If you put us in power we will oppress the shit out of proles. But to be clear most of us have no agreement, and a large portion of us don't believe in hereditary leadership per-se. >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)01:46:12 No.35134345 ▶ >>35134539 >>35134256 Because that first born child is trained from birth in combat, literature, fighting, science. As opposed to a man who decieded to take some law classes for 6 years and elected >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)01:47:22 No.35134400 ▶ >>35134472 >>35134542 >>35134231 Social rejects become hardcore believers of various revolutionary (or in this case counter-revolutionary) ideologies because they've failed in current society. So they feel they have to gain from social reform. In the cases of for example communists or Nazis this is somewhat true. Have no Job? It's okay because the party will send you to school for free and give you guaranteed employment. Have no gf? It's okay because the fuhrer has banned race-mixing and extra-marital sex so someone is bound to go with you. Monarchism is a weird one though, I assume it's just because they notice their grandparents were successful so assume that if they live in the same conditions they too will be successful. >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)01:48:30 No.35134441 ▶ >>35134851 >>35134231 It's amazing that you think it is a profound insight that those who have their ideology in power have more power and respect within the society that they themselves create, as well as deciding to declare that we are NEETs and autists- the equivalent of shitting into your own hand and flinging it. >> Anonymous PR 09/03/14(Wed)01:48:39 No.35134450 ▶ >>35134636 File: Caliph Ibrahim.jpg (44 KB, 749x421) 44 KB >>35125382 >WHO will be king? Who will be the new aristocracy? The current power elite are corrupt to the bone, the old clergy and royals have proven tainted in purity of spirit. The one pure in heart, giving his whole life for struggle in spreding God's word. >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)01:49:14 No.35134472 ▶ >>35134400 >Social rejects become hardcore believers of various revolutionary (or in this case counter-revolutionary) ideologies because they've failed in current society Which explains why university educated people with high incomes are 90% conservatives supporting the status quo rather than supporting firebrand radicals... >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)01:50:09 No.35134519 ▶ >>35134611 >>35134668 >>35134710 File: John_Chrysostom_and_Aelia(...).jpg (273 KB, 1000x786) 273 KB >>35134256 In democracy, you're guaranteed to have a bad leader because the process of picking the leader selects for it. It incentives for liars who play to the lowest common denominator. True, being born to power can sometimes create a monster or an idiot. But in a good royal family, leaders are bred and trained from a young age to be the sovereign and they don't have to lie and pander. And most democratic rulers today are monsters or idiots. >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)01:50:35 No.35134539 ▶ >>35134641 >>35134345 But there's no real qualifying system to ensure that they're good at combat, literature and science. It's completely possible to get a shit leader (as would very happen), then of course you have elective monarchies which give so much power to the electors that the state collapses under its own bureaucracy. At least with the meritocratic (supposedly) systems of election, or party appointment you can gauge how well someone is suited for the job. Rather than just giving them education and hoping it sticks you can be sure that they know what they're doing. >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)01:50:44 No.35134542 ▶ >>35134686 >>35134400 Yes and no. Historically the movements had actual traction with regular working class people because at the time there were real systemic problems (see: Communism in Russia. It wasn't that the people failed, it was that the system forced them to never succeed) that encouraged them to into these extremist movements. But you're right about it if you're speaking about the modern movements. Modern communism and Nazism are exactly as you describe. I just hate when people pain the historical movements with the same brush. Communism in 1915 was not a bunch of angsty children sitting around a university bar on government handouts whining about non-existent oppression, it was a response to massive inequality, exploitation and serfdom. So yeah. >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)01:52:09 No.35134611 ▶ >>35134773 >>35134519 >In democracy, you're guaranteed to have a bad leader because the process of picking the leader selects for it. True, but in democracy the badness of the leader is mitigated by what I like to call the "obstructionism" of the system, so it doesn't necessarily matter so much. As opposed to a monarchy, which is a polar opposite. >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)01:52:45 No.35134636 ▶ >>35134450 If he succeeds and his caliphate survives, he will be a legitimate ruler, yes. Right now he's still in the intermediate stage. It's more bloody and destructive than I would like, sure, I think they're not motivated by higher powers, but sometimes God works in strange ways, and He's slain many on that ground before. Even Mu'adib killed billions >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)01:52:49 No.35134641 ▶ >>35134739 >>35134799 >>35134539 I would rather have a hereditary monarch than an elected man every day. The monarch is much more than a man >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)01:53:29 No.35134668 ▶ >>35134845 File: Wilhelm_II_of_Germany.jpg (66 KB, 267x394) 66 KB >>35134519 >In democracy, you're guaranteed to have a bad leader because the process of picking the leader selects for it. Nigger, please. No, you're not. Just like you're not guaranteed to get a good king with a monarchy no matter how good his predecessors have been. Pic very, very related. >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)01:53:55 No.35134686 ▶ File: 1408504267874.jpg (10 KB, 271x288) 10 KB >>35134542 This. “It cannot be that two million Germans should have fallen in vain . . . No, we do not pardon, we demand—vengeance!” - Adolf Hitler It's no surprise that any of these extremely radical movements happened considering the absolute magnitude of tragedy that was the 1st world war. >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)01:54:21 No.35134710 ▶ File: 1407796564527.jpg (222 KB, 820x1650) 222 KB >>35134519 >You're guaranteed a bad leader You're almost invariably going to get a mediocre leader because democracy forces candidates to try and appeal to all possible demographics to be elected. But regardless I don't like democracy either, I just think replacing a demonstrably inefficient system with an even more inefficient one is a step backwards. Even though the people shouldn't vote there should be some meritocratic means of picking your head of state. And corporate success along with party appointment is probably the best way of doing this. >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)01:55:05 No.35134739 ▶ >>35134832 >>35134641 >The monarch is much more than a man No, he's not. He still eats, shits and can die if shot. He has subjects that are smarter or more athletic than him, he's just a bald monkey like everyone else, except with a crown. The same way a president is a bald monkey in a suit. >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)01:56:00 No.35134773 ▶ File: celeryman.jpg (60 KB, 361x313) 60 KB >>35134611 >As opposed to a monarchy, which is a polar opposite I don't want to be to much of a special snowflake but there's plenty of historical precedents for situations where the power of an "absolute" ruler is limited by other nobles, town councils/guilds, religious authorities, etc. Look at Imperial Germany, they had a strong hereditary ruler with a limited-franchise legislative body. That's a nice model that's more modern. Too bad 20th century European whites had a mass unconscious insanity that made them commit suicide :[ >> Anonymous RB 09/03/14(Wed)01:56:42 No.35134799 ▶ >>35134871 >>35134641 Because you're weak and want to be led and told what to do, rather than direct yourself. Neo-reactionaries really do lack self-respect >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)01:57:47 No.35134832 ▶ >>35134886 >>35134739 No he's the voice of god, a light shining showing the people the way, he is heroism embodied in a physical form >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)01:58:01 No.35134845 ▶ >>35134939 >>35134668 You can get good leaders in democracy, but it's still luck of the dice, and the democratic forces cause the society to decay towards a society that will almost always pick bad leaders. Happened to Rome, happened to America. In monarchy the roll of the leader dice doesn't decay as fast >> Anonymous US 09/03/14(Wed)01:58:17 No.35134851 ▶ >>35135037 >>35134441 I never said it was profound insight, just an observation, you monarchists and your need to rank everything. I'm just saying neo-Nazi rallies aren't made up of your typical bourgeoisie Aryans because the Aryans are willing to compromise for the greater good of humanity. Every normal person is a utilitarian, any one ascribing to religious-like political principles usually has underlying emotional issues that make them feel that way. >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)01:59:00 No.35134871 ▶ >>35134928 >>35134799 I respect myself, i respect my family and god, I volunteer 15 hours a week and donate money. I just realize that we need a central authority that has the best intrests of the people instead of an elected one >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)01:59:30 No.35134886 ▶ >>35134969 >>35134832 Are you shitting me? I know this is /pol/ and you're supposed to find fringe political ideas and all flavors of retards, but I honestly can't tell if you're trolling. >> Anonymous RB 09/03/14(Wed)02:00:46 No.35134928 ▶ >>35134969 >>35134871 And what if your Monarch rejects God? You're not a human being, you're a sheep, you lack the ability to think and direct yourself. >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)02:00:59 No.35134939 ▶ >>35135039 >>35135283 >>35134845 >the roll of the leader doesn't decay as fast Imperial Germany didn't even last a generation. Unless of course you want to count Prussia into the lifespan of the German monarchy. In which case it was still relatively short lived. It lasted for about 400 years whilst the Republic of Venice lasted for over 1000. >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)02:01:55 No.35134969 ▶ >>35135028 >>35135045 >>35134928 And what if your Monarch rejects God? so? >>35134886 lel, stick around for a while >> Anonymous TR 09/03/14(Wed)02:04:12 No.35135026 ▶ b >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)02:04:20 No.35135028 ▶ >>35134969 I'm pretty sure this is the same guy I argued once about the same subject with that simply decided to throw a tantrum and call me some weird latin stuff when I laughed at him for seriosuly believing that one religion holds the truth and told him secular governments are better. >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)02:04:32 No.35135034 ▶ >>35130631 >little war are you retarded? >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)02:04:35 No.35135037 ▶ >>35134851 when you said "I find it amazing" it sure sounded like you had a profound insight. >aryans are willing to compromise for the greater good of humanity haha are you shitting me? They are aborting their children, and laying their demographics down to die- for NOTHING. A utopian dream of the left that has failed again and again. We don't want to swear loyalty to your "humanity"- there is no alien race to confront. We don't want to be citizens of the world. We want our own country. Neo-nazi rallies are made up of rejects because you are fired if you are known to be a neo-nazi. It's never been any different. Fringe political parties have always attracted the scum of the earth- and those in power have always used that as a way of denouncing the ideology as filth- whether it's sinners, degenerates, racists, or retards. >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)02:04:36 No.35135039 ▶ >>35135107 >>35135119 File: woodrow wilson.jpg (49 KB, 512x512) 49 KB >>35134939 I guess you blame the circumstances of WW1 entirely on Germany? The Great war was one of the anomalies of history and it wasn't until Woodrow Wilson decided to spread dumbocracy and freedumbz that the fate of Germany was sealed. >> Anonymous RB 09/03/14(Wed)02:04:45 No.35135045 ▶ >>35135084 >>35134969 So? You respect God but your Monarch doesn't? What then if your King choses to persecute you because of your beliefs >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)02:05:54 No.35135084 ▶ >>35135155 >>35135045 What would happen now if someone decided to persecute you for your beliefs? >I'm pretty sure this is the same guy I argued once about the same subject with that simply decided to throw a tantrum and call me some weird latin stuff when I laughed at him for seriosuly believing that one religion holds the truth and told him secular governments are better. Nah im not that guy >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)02:06:37 No.35135107 ▶ >>35135228 >>35135039 No, I'm saying that monarchies aren't inherently longer-lasting than any other system of government just by virtue of being monarchies. Germany probably being the best example of this. Also >Blaming Wilson and not Britain Shiggy. >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)02:07:00 No.35135119 ▶ >>35135039 World War I murdered all old monarchies or left them agonizing. Then WW2 came along, when America showed the king who openly proclaimed himself a GOD the power of science. and dethroned him. >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)02:07:17 No.35135135 ▶ Monarchism fits better with modern notion of "Benevolent Dictatorships". As for the hereitary element, I can't say too many modern people would readily accept that system. We can fulfill most of the obligations for Monarchism through simple Presidential supremacy, in a sense, unbalancing powers in favor of a trained representative of the people. A ten year term might fit the bill. We go slap a nice the "Name" decade on each term and make it all fancy like. Yeah. >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)02:07:51 No.35135148 ▶ >>35131145 >The only thing new about Rotherham is that they were Pakis And poor, before you had to be connected to get away with fucking kids. Now if someone calls a group as Asian child rapists out on what they're doing they get sent for re-education. No joke. >> Anonymous RB 09/03/14(Wed)02:08:12 No.35135155 ▶ >>35135197 >>35135084 I'd vote for the other guy. You're stuck with yours. Try answering the question rather than avoiding it. >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)02:09:28 No.35135197 ▶ >>35135261 >>35135155 The question was >What would happen now if someone decided to persecute you for your beliefs? So what do you do? You defend yourself >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)02:10:29 No.35135228 ▶ >>35135107 .Germany was holding it's own until Murrica intervened. Still, the war itself was retarded from the start, but it had been less bloody if it had ended in 1917. >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)02:10:58 No.35135248 ▶ >>35132289 are they rational for reacting with disgust to the present state of society? >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)02:11:23 No.35135261 ▶ >>35135197 Do you really want people to overthrow their absolute monarch when they feel persecuted or he's not doing a good job? God damn it, do you realize you're basically creating the Central African Republic or any state full of warlords and infighting? >> Anonymous 09/03/14(Wed)02:12:12 No.35135283 ▶ >>35134939 Well, you have a point, but I'd counter that on average monarchies tend to be stable and long-lasting Republic of Venice is interesting, I don't know much about but I think it was pretty illiberal/oligarchic rather than democratic. Anyway, I'm out pleasuring posting with you niggers [Post a Reply] [Return] [Catalog] [Top] 264 / 63 / 1 [Update] [Auto] 10 264 / 64 / ? 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